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Support the Testing of domain fronting sites

We are encountering issue with finding the ideal domain fronting domain names constantly. We could add this to logcollector.

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[4:14:06 pm] <+meskio> we are kind of jumping into the next topic
[4:14:25 pm] <+meskio> we are using phpmyadmin.net for everything in azure
[4:14:43 pm] <+meskio> and Russia is already using that name to block hetzner IP range if you visit it
[4:14:49 pm] <+meskio> maybe we should diversify
[4:15:08 pm] <+meskio> there is a post in the forum with proposals of alternatives: https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-and-hetzner-block-in-russia/16134/3
[4:15:17 pm] <+meskio> and tiktok has a bunch of things there
[4:15:57 pm] <+meskio> AFAIK we are using phpmyadmin.net in: snowflake, moat and meek
[4:18:15 pm] <+cohosh> there is also a list in this confidential issue that was about vantage point tests: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/team/-/issues/132#note_3031622
[4:19:43 pm] <+meskio> so maybe something that needs some work to test in our vantage points and decide in different names
[4:19:56 pm] <+cohosh> one of them, cdn.zk.mk
[4:20:01 pm] <+shelikhoo> I think we have got a lot of domains, and we could either handpick one, or just let client try them all and remember the last working one
[4:20:01 pm] <+cohosh> we've been using for snowflake
[4:20:26 pm] <+shelikhoo> I could try to add domain fronting testing into vantage points
[4:21:29 pm] <+cohosh> snowflake's multiple front support has been very useful when faced with these decisions
[4:21:50 pm] <+cohosh> but as we've seen with phpmyadmin, it's noisy and might cause other problems
[4:22:25 pm] <+cohosh> vantage point testing sounds like a good idea
[4:22:47 pm] <+meskio> I agree
[4:22:48 pm] <+ggus> https://www.wappalyzer.com/technologies/cdn/cdn77/ < phpmyadmin.net is cdn77 top #4 website based on traffic (according to wappalyzer)
[4:23:50 pm] <+meskio> we can keep the status quo for during the break and work on the vantage point testing after to decide in other names
[4:24:28 pm] <+meskio> shelikhoo: can you open an issue for the vantage point testing so we don't forget about it?
[4:24:42 pm] <+shelikhoo> Yes! I will do that after meeting 
[4:24:47 pm] <+meskio> thanks