make a web-team mailing lists

we have a www-team mailing list:

https://lists.torproject.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/www-team.lists.torproject.org/

but it's dead. there hasn't been many updates, and there's 157 subscribers.

so let's shutdown this list (keep archives public), and make a private list to coordinate the web folks.

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@anarcat @gaba I'm happy to make a new mailing list, but I'd appreciate if someone would enumerate who the "web folks" are, exactly :)

Also, shouldn't we make an announcement on the list about the upcoming closure?

Also, shouldn't we make an announcement on the list about the upcoming closure?

yes, the work here includes shutting down tor-www and announcing that fact there.

we should also determine whether the new list archives should be public or not. it seems to me subscribers should be approved by mods though.

we should also determine whether the new list archives should be public or not. it seems to me subscribers should be approved by mods though.

Unless we don't have an explicit reason to keep messages confidential, it should probably be public. I'm fine with either subscription model, although managing subscription approvals will add to our workload.

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Yes. Let's make an announcement to the list about upcoming closure.

About the new mailing list, can you make the new mailing list and then we send it to people in the "web team" and they decide if they join or not?

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The list is created: https://lists.torproject.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/web-team.lists.torproject.org/

I subscribed @anarcat @gaba and myself and set the subscription policy to Moderate.

As for the other potential subscribers, I would opt to just go ahead and subscribe them.

@anarcat The wiki page instructions for enabling DMARC mitigations on a list aren't working:

root@lists-01:~# mailman-wrapper shell -l web-team.lists.torproject.org -r tpa.mm3_tweaks.mitigate
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/mailman", line 33, in <module>
    sys.exit(load_entry_point('mailman==3.3.8', 'console_scripts', 'mailman')())
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/click/core.py", line 1130, in __call__
    return self.main(*args, **kwargs)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/click/core.py", line 1055, in main
    rv = self.invoke(ctx)
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/bin/mailman.py", line 69, in invoke
    return super().invoke(ctx)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/click/core.py", line 1657, in invoke
    return _process_result(sub_ctx.command.invoke(sub_ctx))
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/click/core.py", line 1404, in invoke
    return ctx.invoke(self.callback, **ctx.params)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/click/core.py", line 760, in invoke
    return __callback(*args, **kwargs)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/click/decorators.py", line 26, in new_func
    return f(get_current_context(), *args, **kwargs)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/commands/cli_withlist.py", line 294, in shell
    r = call_name(dotted_name, m, *run_args)
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/utilities/modules.py", line 69, in call_name
    named_callable = find_name(dotted_name)
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/mailman/utilities/modules.py", line 53, in find_name
    return getattr(module, object_name)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: module 'tpa.mm3_tweaks' has no attribute 'mitigate'

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@anarcat does the command listed on our wiki for deleting a list also delete archives?

https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/tpa/team/-/wikis/service/lists#remove-a-list

I couldn't find any pointers towards disabling a list, either on the wiki page or elsewhere like in the Mailman docs.

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